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 Post subject: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:21 am 
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I have an Edirol R-09HR which works OK, but there are some features about the Zoom I really like, and the videos and sound samples are really convincing. Amazon has the H2 for cheap, so I have one coming next week. I'm going to do some recordings with the two units right next to each other, emphasizing the built-in mics first, since that's how I'll use it the most. Any thoughts on how to test?

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 Post subject: Re: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:50 am 
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Take a look at some of the evaluation criteria other people have used - esp. in the context of recording classical voice or classical instrumental music.

http://forum.recordingreview.com/f9/hel ... irol-1861/

http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/

http://digitalvoicerecorderhq.com/top-1 ... -for-2011/

http://www.bradlinder.net/

http://emusician.com/daw/emusic_studio_pocket/

http://www.martin-doppelbauer.de/fieldrecorder/

http://transom.org/?page_id=7514

http://www.musicedmagic.com/audio-video ... views.html

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 Post subject: Re: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:54 am 
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Ah, just the ticket! Thanks. By the way, I bought my Zoom H2 yesterday for $123.91 on Amazon! I see that today they're back to $145. Papa loves a bargain!

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 Post subject: Re: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:04 pm 
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I'll add taperssection.com as a place to get some good input (pun not intended!)

I'm still using an RO9 original - haven't seen a need to replace it yet, although I'm sure it will die eventually. Will be interested in seeing your thoughts on the H2. In the past, the Zoom products had more complicated, menu-driven interfaces, but maybe they've improved on that.

I still have to wonder why Edirol canned the R09 series - it was a great and VERY popular recorder for so many applications. Seems very odd that they discontinued the line!


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 Post subject: Re: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:22 pm 
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Hi NaC, I was hoping you'd chime in, since I know that you know more about these things than I do. Yes, it was very soon after the R-09HR came out that they canned the line. I keep thinking they're going to come out with a replacement, but it's been quite a while now.

The thing that intrigues me about the Zoom is the 4 directional mics offering a variety of stereo effects. This makes it definitely different from the Edirol, even if the fidelity of the sound is similar. For $124 I'm willing to give it a whirl. If one machine is truly superior to the other, then I will probably sell the reject on Ebay to recover some of my $$. Watching the Youtube video reviews of the H2 got me quite interested. I ordered a skin for it, as a frequent comment is the poor build quality.

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 Post subject: preliminary impressions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:54 pm 
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So I've had the Zoom H2 for a few days. I really like it. I haven't done head to head tests with it and the Edirol R-09HR yet, but here are some first impressions.

The mic pattern - better for true stereo. The Zoom has a pair of mics pointed to the front and another pair pointed to the back. The mics have a true cardioid pattern that allows for me more realistic panning than the Edirol. I have read that the Edirol's two mics are omni-directional, which explains why it is harder to "locate" a sound in the recording. Using all four mics on the H2, front and back, one can capture a situation various ways, with interesting results.

The sound quality seems quite realistic to my ears - as good as the Edirol, so far. I haven't subjected it to extreme dynamic or pitch changes yet, so will report more on that later.

I like how you can convert from a .wav file to a .mp3 file right there on the device.

Many of you know what these devices are like already anyway. My plan is to record some of the same events with the two devices sitting side by side, to make better comparisons.

Very impressed with the capabilities considering the very reasonable price.

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 Post subject: Re: preliminary impressions
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:33 am 
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Do you have any further impressions or experiences to report?

I am interested in buying this two, especially interested in the mics as you mentioned.


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So I've had the Zoom H2 for a few days. I really like it. I haven't done head to head tests with it and the Edirol R-09HR yet, but here are some first impressions.

The mic pattern - better for true stereo. The Zoom has a pair of mics pointed to the front and another pair pointed to the back. The mics have a true cardioid pattern that allows for me more realistic panning than the Edirol. I have read that the Edirol's two mics are omni-directional, which explains why it is harder to "locate" a sound in the recording. Using all four mics on the H2, front and back, one can capture a situation various ways, with interesting results.

The sound quality seems quite realistic to my ears - as good as the Edirol, so far. I haven't subjected it to extreme dynamic or pitch changes yet, so will report more on that later.

I like how you can convert from a .wav file to a .mp3 file right there on the device.

Many of you know what these devices are like already anyway. My plan is to record some of the same events with the two devices sitting side by side, to make better comparisons.

Very impressed with the capabilities considering the very reasonable price.


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 Post subject: Re: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:45 pm 
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Time got away from me. Was away at a summer program, then big family drama. I've been using the Zoom for my sessions and so far like it, but haven't taken the time for head to head testing yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Gonna do my own Zoom H2 vs. Edirol R-09HR test
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:45 pm 
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And finally, my conclusion....

I have found the Zoom easier to use and sold my Edirol on Ebay last week (for a very good price!).

I found no significant sound quality difference between the two. I don't know if it was software, user error or what, but I had several lessons and rehearsals where I began recording on the Edirol and it shut itself off after a few minutes (even with A/C power). I have never had that problem with the Zoom.

Zoom advantages:
Don't have to open any doors to transfer files to computer. The USB port is easy to get to.
You can transfer files without turning the unit on. It uses USB power for this.
Tech specs are very similar to Edirol for much cheaper cost.
More mic options - surround sound is possible with the two pairs of built-in stereo mics.
smaller and lighter (some people actually think it's too light)

Edirol advantages:
slightly bigger screen (but I see that the new Zoom H2n has a bigger screen)

I'm not a true gearhead at all. I just need something that seems to accurately capture an acoustic recording. I think in the right acoustical space, one could use a recording from the Zoom for an audition screening, but it's designed for more personal use than that, and for the personal stuff, it's fantastic.

There are some interesting Amazon reviews of the new Roland R-05 and the Zoom H2n.

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